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    It is not the case that A being that genuinely changes from timeless to temporal undergoes a real intrinsic change, not merely an extrinsic one.

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    • 1.If a being is truly timeless, it cannot change at all—change requires temporal passage. The premise smuggles in a contradiction.
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    • 2.Acquiring temporal properties like 'being in the past' are extrinsic: they depend on the external framework of time, not internal constitution.
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    • 3.Any apparent intrinsic change could be explained by the being entering a new temporal framework—a relational shift, not intrinsic alteration.
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    • 1.Intrinsic changes involve alterations to a thing's essential properties or internal constitution, not merely its relational position.
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    • 2.Temporal existence involves acquiring properties like 'having a determinate past' that timeless beings fundamentally lack.
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    • 3.A transition from necessity to contingency in one's mode of existence is a deep metaphysical change, not reducible to external relations.
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