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    It is not the case that A being whose existence involves any internal conceptual dependency cannot be said to need 'nothing other than itself' in an absolute sense.

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    • 1.Internal conceptual dependencies are mind-dependent; they don't constrain what a being needs ontologically.
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    • 2.A being could be absolutely self-sufficient in existence while humans merely require concepts to understand it.
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    • 3.The claim conflates epistemological limits (how we know things) with metaphysical facts (what things actually need).
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    Reasons Against

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    • 1.Self-identity requires distinguishing oneself from non-self, which logically depends on the concept of 'other.'
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    • 2.Any being with properties must conceptually depend on the frameworks that make those properties intelligible.
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    • 3.Absolute self-sufficiency requires independence from all external reference points, including conceptual ones.
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