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    It is not the case that A coherent notion of objects 'as they are' can be cashed out relative to an idealized epistemic community rather than requiring a view from nowhere.

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    • 1.An idealized epistemic community is still a community—what makes it authoritative about reality rather than just about idealized belief?
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    • 2.Reality may contain truths inaccessible even to idealized observers (e.g., quantum indeterminacy, counterfactuals about unobservable scenarios).
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    • 3.This view merely relocates the problem: we still need independent justification for why this particular idealization captures objectivity.
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    Reasons Against

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    • 1.All human knowledge is necessarily perspectival; an idealized epistemic community acknowledges this without collapsing into relativism.
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    • 2.Perfect epistemic conditions (unlimited evidence, rational agents, no cognitive biases) provide objective standards without requiring metaphysical access to reality-itself.
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    • 3.Scientific objectivity already functions this way: consensus among idealized observers, not correspondence to a view-from-nowhere.
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