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    A communicative chain can sustain reference to an object ... — Carmelics
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    Challenges→An agent can think directly about objects the agent has not perceived, provided the agent stands in an appropriate communicative chain that traces back to perceptions of that object by other agents in the chain.

    A communicative chain can sustain reference to an object only if each link preserves the object-dependence, but testimonial transmission routinely severs this dependency by substituting stable descriptive surrogates.

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    • 1.Direct acquaintance with objects grounds reference; testimony replaces this with descriptions that can refer to wrong objects.
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    • 2.Historical chains of testimony accumulate errors and reinterpretations, degrading original object-dependence over time.
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    • 3.Two testimonial chains using identical descriptions can refer to different objects, showing descriptions alone don't preserve reference.
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    • 1.Most successful reference occurs through testimony despite lacking direct acquaintance—suggesting descriptive surrogates work adequately.
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    • 2.Even direct perception relies on conceptual mediation; testimony is continuous with ordinary reference-making, not fundamentally distinct.
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    • 3.Stable descriptions can preserve object-dependence if they're historically connected to causal origins, not merely descriptively accurate.
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    Descriptive surrogates(as used in philosophy of language)
    Descriptions or stand-ins that represent something without actually being that thing—like a wanted poster that describes a criminal but isn't the criminal themselves.
    Object-dependence(describes whether aesthetic pleasure needs something outside your mind)
    The idea that something requires an actual external thing to exist or function—for example, a painting requires a canvas and paint to be a painting.
    Testimonial transmission(as used in epistemology)
    Sharing information by telling someone else about it, rather than them experiencing it directly themselves.
    communicative chain(Neo-Russellian account of singular thought without personal perception)
    A sequence of communicative acts linking a present agent back through other agents to an original perceptual encounter with an object, grounding the present agent's ability to refer to or think about that object.
    reference(Distinguished from intension in the context of possible worlds semantics)
    The actual-world referent of an expression; what the expression picks out in the actual world.

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