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    It is not the case that A covenant is voided by fear only if the cause of that fear arises after the covenant was made.

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    • 1.A covenant made under duress lacks genuine consent from its inception, regardless of when the fear originated.
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    • 2.Hobbes himself concedes that covenants extorted by force in the state of nature bind only so long as no better option exists, making temporal origin irrelevant to validity.
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    • 3.If the fear that motivated the covenant was never removed, the coerced party remains in the same unfree condition as when they agreed, nullifying the consent retroactively.
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    Reason for 2 of 2
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    • 1.Rawlsian fair agreement requires that no party exploit a position of unjust advantage, making agreements void when founded on structural coercion predating the covenant.
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    • 2.Distinguishing pre-existing from post-arising fear privileges the aggressor who manufactures fear early, rewarding those who establish dominance before formal agreement.
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    • 1.The cause of fear that makes a covenant invalid must be a new fact or sign of unwillingness to perform, arising after the covenant was made.
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    • 2.Whatever could not hinder a man from making a promise ought not to be admitted as a hindrance to performing that promise.
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