Skip to content
Carmelics
TopicsThinkersChangesContributorsLoading account…

    Carmelics

    A reasoning platform. Break down any belief into clear reasons, explore both sides, and weigh the evidence honestly.

    Navigate

    • Topics
    • Search
    • Recent Changes
    • Contribute
    • How It Works
    • Glossary
    • Thinkers
    • Contributors
    • About
    • Statistics
    • Terms
    • Privacy

    Database

    Statements
    —
    Perspectives
    —
    Topics
    —

    Press ? for keyboard shortcuts

    LoyalLoyalJusticeJustice
    Made withinDC&Austin
    Statements
    321,452
    Perspectives
    108,905
    Topics
    42
    A genuinely providential ordering would require that appa... — Carmelics
    Home
    HistoryEditSee Inverse

    Part of a larger discussion

    Challenges→The world is providentially run

    A genuinely providential ordering would require that apparent evils either benefit the sufferer or serve a greater good accessible to reason, which systematic natural evil does not satisfy.

    ?Rate how convincing each reason is below to see the overall strength.

    No one has weighed in yet. Be the first to share reasons for or against this statement.

    Sign in or register to share your perspective on this statement.

    Key Terms

    accessible to reason(in epistemology (the study of what we can know))
    Something that humans can understand, explain, or figure out using logic and thinking, rather than it being mysterious or hidden.
    apparent evils(in discussions about why suffering exists)
    Bad things that happen in the world—like suffering, disease, or disaster—that seem pointless or harmful on the surface.
    greater good(in ethics and arguments about justifying suffering)
    A benefit or positive outcome that is more important or valuable than the harm or sacrifice needed to achieve it.
    providential ordering(in philosophy of religion and theology)
    A system where a higher power (like God) arranges events to ensure everything happens for a good reason or purpose.
    systematic natural evil

    Next step

    Based on where you are in your exploration

    Explore a random proposition
    Start fresh with something unrelated.
    (in philosophy of religion, when discussing the problem of evil)
    Suffering and harm that occurs regularly and predictably through nature itself—like diseases, earthquakes, and death—rather than from human choices.
    the sufferer(in ethics and discussions of harm)
    The person or being who experiences the bad thing or pain.

    Connections

    2 topics

    Natural Theology1 linkedDivine Attributes1 linked

    Related

    The world is providentially run

    Details

    Type
    claim
    Perspectives
    0 (0 for, 0 against)
    Edits
    1 edit

    Open for perspectives

    This idea is waiting for its first supporting or challenging perspective.

    Share the first perspective