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    Challenges→The judgment of taste involved in judging an ideal of beauty is not a purely aesthetic judgment but a partly intellectualized judgment of taste.

    A judgment can involve rational normativity without thereby importing a determinate intellectual concept that compromises its aesthetic purity.

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    • 1.Normativity can operate at pre-conceptual levels through affective attunement and shared sensibility without requiring explicit intellectual content.
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    • 2.Aesthetic judgment's 'purity' consists in formal responsiveness, not absence of normative force—normativity and purity are orthogonal properties.
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    • 3.We distinguish between judging-as-beautiful and judging-as-exemplifying-a-concept; the former permits normativity without conceptual determination.
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    • 1.Any normative claim—even implicit ones—presupposes evaluative criteria that function as concepts, however inchoate or unarticulated they remain.
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    • 2.Aesthetic purity requires freedom from constraint; normativity is inherently constraining, making their joint absence a logical necessity, not possibility.
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    • 3.The distinction between 'determinate' and 'indeterminate' concepts is unstable; normativity just means some conceptual content shapes the judgment.
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