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    It is not the case that A just God who permits eternal consequences from compromised freedom cannot coherently be absolved by appealing to that same freedom.

    ?Set your confidence on the premises below to see your aggregate.

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    • 1.Compromise of freedom is a matter of degree, not binary; meaningful agency and moral responsibility can exist within constrained conditions.
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    • 2.Justice may require holding agents responsible for their choices regardless of conditions, as accountability itself sustains moral order.
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    • 3.An appeal to freedom isn't circular if it grounds both the capacity to choose wrongly AND the justification for consequences of that choice.
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    Reasons Against

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    • 1.Freedom exercised under compromised conditions (ignorance, coercion, cognitive limits) doesn't constitute genuine autonomous choice.
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    • 2.A just being cannot hold agents accountable for outcomes of choices they couldn't meaningfully avoid given their constraints.
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    • 3.Invoking the same freedom that is admittedly compromised to justify eternal punishment is logically circular reasoning.
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