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    A karmic system of cosmic justice requires a persisting self — Carmelics
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    A karmic system of cosmic justice requires a persisting self

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    • 1.Locke's psychological continuity theory holds that personal identity consists in continuity of memory and consciousness across time, not substance.
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    • 2.If karmic memory-traces (Sanskrit: samskara) constitute a continuous psychological chain across lives, Lockean identity is preserved without a Cartesian soul.
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    • 3.A karmic system grounded in psychological continuity satisfies the justice condition in P2 while still requiring a persisting informational structure across lives.
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    • 1.Derek Parfit concedes in Reasons and Persons that even without strict identity, desert-based relationships can obtain where there is sufficient psychological connectedness.
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    • 2.Karmic inheritance across lives exhibits precisely the causal-psychological connectedness Parfit identifies as sufficient for responsibility attributions.
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    • 3.Therefore, karmic justice requires at minimum a persisting causal-psychological thread—a functionally persisting self—even if not a metaphysically simple soul.
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    • 1.Karmic rebirth functions as a system of reward and punishment: fortunate births result from good deeds in prior lives, unpleasant births from evil past deeds
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    • 2.A system of reward and punishment is just only if the recipient of the karmic fruit is the same person as the agent of the original action
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    • 3.Personal identity across lives requires some persisting constituent that carries over from one life to the next
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    This line of objection to the Buddha’s teaching of non-self is more commonly formulated in response to the argument from impermanence, however. Perhaps its most dramatic form is aimed at the Buddha’s acceptance of the doctrines of karma and rebirth. It is clear that the body ceases to exist at death. And given the Buddha’s argument that mental states all originate in dependence on sense-object contact events, it seems no psychological constituent of the person can transmigrate either. Yet the Bu
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