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    It is not the case that A landscape rendered by a great painter is more charming than the same landscape captured by a camera obscura.

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    • 1.The camera obscura's mechanical fidelity eliminates the distorting imposition of the artist's subjective preferences onto the natural scene.
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    • 2.Aesthetic value grounded in accurate representation of nature is diminished, not enhanced, by the interpolation of human expression between viewer and world.
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    • 3.Ruskin's doctrine of 'truth to nature' and early photographic theory both identify unmediated optical transcription as a superior form of pictorial honesty.
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    Reason for 2 of 2
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    • 1.Kant's aesthetic theory holds that genuine judgments of beauty must be disinterested, free from concepts of rational perfection or purposive cognition.
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    • 2.The pleasure derived from a painter's expression of rational soul is a cognitive, interest-laden satisfaction rather than a pure aesthetic response.
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    • 3.If Kantian disinterestedness is correct, the painter's superiority rests on non-aesthetic grounds, leaving the claim about aesthetic charm unestablished.
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    Reasons Against

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    • 1.A camera obscura produces only mechanical similarity, lacking the expression of a rational soul.
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    • 2.A great painter's work expresses the perfection of spirit through many abilities of the soul and skilled use of the external limbs.
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    • 3.The expression of rational perfection produces greater pleasure than mechanical similarity.
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