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    A merely rational relation in God entails no real interna... — Carmelics
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    Challenges→The God-creature relation must be internal to God.

    A merely rational relation in God entails no real internal change in the divine nature, undermining the Hartshornean inference from relationality to internality.

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    • 1.Relations of reason are conceptual distinctions without ontological correlates in reality, so they cannot necessitate real change.
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    • 2.Divine immutability requires that no genuine alteration occurs in God's being; rational relations preserve this classical requirement.
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    • 3.The human mind distinguishes between relations it creates by thought and relations that exist independently; God can do the same.
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    • 1.If God truly sustains creation and genuinely responds to creatures, some real relational structure must exist in divine reality.
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    • 2.Relegating all God-world relations to 'merely rational' status makes divine knowledge of the world appear arbitrary or illusory.
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    • 3.A relation that makes genuine difference to one relata (creation) but not the other (God) seems metaphysically incoherent or asymmetrical.
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