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    A moral agent must postulate the existence of God as a ra... — Carmelics
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    A moral agent must postulate the existence of God as a rational presupposition of the moral life.

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    • 1.Morality is grounded in pure practical reason, and moral actions are based on maxims that can be rationally endorsed as universal principles.
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    • 2.All moral actions necessarily aim at ends, and the end moral actions aim at is the 'highest good' — a world in which moral virtue and happiness are maximized, with happiness contingent on virtue.
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    • 3.The principle 'ought implies can' entails that if a moral agent has an obligation to seek the highest good, the agent must believe it is possible to achieve the highest good.
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    • 1.The 'ought implies can' principle entails only that the highest good must be possible, not that any particular agent must believe it is achievable.
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    • 2.A moral agent can coherently act from duty while remaining agnostic about whether the highest good will ever be realized, as Kant's own formalism demands duty independent of consequences.
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    • 3.Postulating God to secure moral motivation smuggles consequentialist reasoning into a deontological framework, undermining the very categorical nature of the moral law Kant seeks to ground.
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    • 1.Nietzsche, Camus, and Sartre each demonstrate that moral seriousness—including self-sacrifice and principled action—is historically sustained without theistic postulates.
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    • 2.If robust moral practice is empirically possible without postulating God, then God is not a necessary rational presupposition of the moral life but merely one optional metaphysical supplement among others.
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    Kant’s version of the argument can be stated in different ways, but perhaps the following captures one plausible interpretation of the argument. Morality is grounded in pure practical reason, and the moral agent must act on the basis of maxims that can be rationally endorsed as universal principles. Moral actions are thus not determined by results or consequences but by the maxims on which they are based. However, all actions, including moral actions, necessarily aim at ends. Kant argues that th
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    If robust moral practice is empirically possible without postulating God, then G...
    Morality is grounded in pure practical reason, and moral actions are based on ma...
    Nietzsche, Camus, and Sartre each demonstrate that moral seriousness—including s...
    Postulating God to secure moral motivation smuggles consequentialist reasoning i...
    The 'ought implies can' principle entails only that the highest good must be pos...
    The highest good can only be pursued through moral action; no shortcuts to happi...
    The principle 'ought implies can' entails that if a moral agent has an obligatio...
    There is no a priori reason and little empirical reason to think moral action wi...
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