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    It is not the case that A morally perfect God may permissibly allow evil if doing so is necessary to actualize a world containing significantly free creatures capable of moral good.

    ?Set your confidence on the premises below to see your aggregate.

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    • 1.Natural evils (diseases, earthquakes) don't require free will to occur; a perfect God could eliminate them without compromising freedom.
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    • 2.An all-knowing God permitting predictable horrors suggests either imperfection, indifference, or that the justification is implausible.
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    • 3.Infinite beings might actualize both free creatures AND better worlds; our inability to conceive this doesn't prove it's impossible.
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    Reasons Against

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    • 1.Genuine moral agency requires the real possibility of choosing wrongly; predetermined goodness is not truly virtuous.
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    • 2.A world with free creatures capable of moral growth and love contains greater intrinsic value than one without such possibility.
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    • 3.An omnipotent being cannot create logical contradictions, including free creatures who cannot possibly do evil.
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