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    It is not the case that A necessary being must be transcendent.

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    Reasons For

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    Reason for 1 of 2
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    • 1.Spinoza's God or Nature (Deus sive Natura) is a necessary being that is identical with the totality of existence, not transcendent to it.
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    • 2.If a necessary being can be the immanent ground of all things rather than external to them, necessity does not entail transcendence.
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    Reason for 2 of 2
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    • 1.Causal independence is compatible with immanence, as a being can be self-causing (causa sui) while remaining wholly within the natural order.
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    • 2.The inference from causal independence to transcendence illicitly assumes that self-sufficiency requires standing outside the world rather than grounding it from within.
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    Reasons Against

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    • A necessary being must be causally independent for its existence.
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