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    A proposition that is true in a world with no thinking be... — Carmelics
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    Challenges→Even if no thinking being existed, there would still be at least one 'truth in itself'.

    A proposition that is true in a world with no thinking beings cannot be evaluated for truth without invoking a perspective external to that world.

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    • 1.Truth-evaluation requires a subject with cognitive capacities to assess correspondence between proposition and reality.
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    • 2.Facts about a mindless world (e.g., 'dinosaurs existed') are knowable only through external interpretation by thinking beings.
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    • 3.Without an evaluating perspective, 'true' becomes meaningless—it describes no actual cognitive or epistemic relation.
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    • 1.Propositions about mindless worlds can be true independent of evaluation: 'rocks existed before minds' is true regardless of current observers.
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    • 2.Truth and evaluation are distinct: a proposition's truth is its correspondence to reality; evaluation is a separate epistemic act we perform.
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    • 3.The claim confuses metaphysical truth (mind-independent) with epistemology (how we know it), conflating two different philosophical questions.
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