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    A relation can be real in one relatum and merely a being of reason in the other relatum.

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    • 1.A relation is real in both relata only when the two relata belong to a single order.
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    • 2.When two relata do not belong to a single order, the ordering is asymmetric.
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    • 3.Sense perception and knowledge are ordered to sensible and intelligible things, but sensible and intelligible things in extramental reality are outside the order of sensible and intelligible being.
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    • 1.A relation requires two real terms as its ontological ground, since a relation with only one real relatum lacks the dyadic foundation relations require.
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    • 2.If one relatum is merely a being of reason, the purported relation is itself merely a being of reason, not a mixed entity straddling two ontological categories.
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    • 3.Suárez argues in Disputationes Metaphysicae that ontological status cannot be split across a single relation without collapsing into a contradiction about the relation's own mode of being.
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    • 1.The asymmetry argument in P2-P3 conflates epistemological directedness with ontological relational structure, since intentionality is not itself a category of real relation.
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    • 2.Ockham's razor demands that positing a half-real relation to explain cognitive asymmetry is ontologically profligate when the asymmetry can be fully explained by the real properties of the knower alone, without invoking any relation in the known object.
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    [3] Sometimes, however, a relation is something real in one of the relata and a mere being of reason in the other. And this happens whenever the two relata do not belong to a single order. For example, sense perception and knowledge are related to things that are sensible and intelligible. But insofar as the latter are things existing in extramental reality, they are outside the order of sensible and intelligible being. And so there is a real relation in the knowledge and sense perception in vir
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