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    It is not the case that A representation that is universally shared and practically indispensable can still constitute collective illusion, as Berkeley's idealism demonstrates.

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    • 1.If a representation produces reliable, predictive success across contexts, calling it 'illusion' empties 'illusion' of meaning.
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    • 2.Berkeley's idealism requires God as ultimate perceiver; without it, the 'collective illusion' lacks any ontological grounding.
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    • 3.Practical indispensability suggests we've tracked something real; systematic failure would reveal the illusion, but systems work.
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    • 1.Universal agreement doesn't guarantee truth: many pre-scientific cultures unanimously believed in geocentric cosmology.
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    • 2.Practical indispensability can stem from shared cognitive structures rather than external reality, as Kant's categories suggest.
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    • 3.Berkeley's God-dependent idealism shows coherent systems can preserve utility while denying mind-independent material substance.
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