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    It is not the case that A responsible choice in God's favor requires that we sin.

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    Reasons For

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    Reason for 1 of 2
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    • 1.Morally significant knowledge of evil can be acquired through imagination, testimony, and empathy without requiring the agent to commit evil acts.
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    • 2.If experiential sinning were necessary for genuine moral understanding, then saints and morally exemplary persons would be epistemically deficient relative to habitual sinners, which is absurd.
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    • 3.Aquinas and the virtue ethics tradition hold that moral knowledge is cultivated through virtuous habituation, not through transgression followed by remorse.
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    Reason for 2 of 2
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    • 1.The argument entails that God, being sinless, lacks the experiential basis for genuine understanding of rebellion against himself, yet omniscience precludes such ignorance.
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    • 2.If God can possess complete knowledge of sin's desolation without having sinned, then the inference that humans must sin to understand it commits a special pleading fallacy.
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    Reasons Against

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    • 1.True friendship is always voluntary.
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    • 2.If God only exacts devotion from us, we are reduced to being his subjects; to be friends with him requires a meaningful and responsible decision on our part.
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    • 3.A responsible choice in God's favor requires that we understand the alternative, which is to be at enmity with him.
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