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    Supports→Moritz's claim that Kant's conception of beauty is essentially the same as Wolff's and Moritz's own is false

    A theory grounding beauty in objective perfection is categorically distinct from one grounding it in a subjective free play of faculties, regardless of surface terminological similarities.

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    • 1.Objective perfection theories entail mind-independent standards; subjective accounts deny this. These generate opposite commitments about beauty's existence.
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    • 2.Objectivist theories make beauty discoverable through reason; subjective accounts make it constituted by individual cognitive processes. Epistemically distinct.
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    • 3.Calling both 'grounded in' obscures that one posits external grounds while the other locates grounds in perceiving subjects themselves.
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    • 1.Both theories must explain inter-subjective agreement on beauty. Both face similar explanatory burdens despite different metaphysical commitments.
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    • 2.The distinction collapses practically: objective perfection theories still require human faculties to recognize it; subjective accounts still appeal to structured norms.
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    • 3.Many hybrid positions (e.g., response-dependent accounts) occupy the middle ground, suggesting the categorical divide is not exhaustive of real options.
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    Categorically distinct(The statement claims semantic mechanisms of different paradoxes are categorically distinct)
    Fundamentally different in type or category, not just different in degree.
    Free play of faculties(as what passions prevent according to Kant)
    A state where your different mental abilities work together smoothly and freely without being blocked or controlled by something else (like emotions taking over).
    Subjective(as used in epistemology and philosophy of mind)
    Relating to personal experience, feelings, or perspective—how things seem or feel to an individual person, which can differ from person to person.
    Terminological(as used in philosophy of language)
    Having to do with the words and labels used, rather than the actual underlying reality or substance.
    grounding(Drawn from contemporary metaphysics; proposed as potentially applicable to understanding the foundations of legality.)
    A metaphysical relation in which some entities or facts are more foundational than others, providing a hierarchical structure of the world.
    objective(1910, §10)
    An ideal object, something like a state of affairs or proposition, which can be expressed by an independent sentence (e.g., 'Red is a color') when judged or assumed, or by a 'that'-clause or nominal phrase when judged about.
    perfection(Sulzer's conception of perfection as involving teleological inner constitution)
    A property of objects that includes purposiveness, such that an object can be perfect through its material, its external form, or its inner constitution as a means to a final end.

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