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    It is not the case that A valid argument with accidentally true premises yields no genuine epistemic justification, making 'soundness' epistemically hollow without a knowledge condition.

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    • 1.Justification concerns the quality of reasoning process, not metaphysical luck about premise truth. Soundness captures this quality.
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    • 2.Adding a knowledge condition conflates justification with infallibility; justified believers can hold false beliefs through no fault.
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    • 3.If accidentally true premises yield no justification, then most historical scientific knowledge wouldn't count—an implausible result.
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    • 1.Epistemic justification requires a proper causal connection between belief and truth, not mere logical validity plus accident.
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    • 2.A reasoner who believes via accidentally true premises is indistinguishable from someone reasoning from falsehoods—epistemically.
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    • 3.Soundness guarantees truth preservation but not rational warrant; these are distinct epistemic goods.
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