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    A void cannot exist — Carmelics
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    A void cannot exist

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    • 1.A void is defined as dimensional space without matter inside
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    • 2.If matter can fill a void, the dimensions of the matter would occupy the same space as the dimensions of the void
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    • 3.Two bodies sharing the same dimensional space would mean two physical bodies exist in the same place at the same time
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    • 1.The argument conflates dimensional extension as a property of matter with dimensional extension as an independent feature of space itself.
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    • 2.If spatial dimensions are ontologically prior to matter (as Newton's absolute space entails), void dimensions and matter dimensions are categorically distinct and cannot 'overlap' in the problematic sense.
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    • 3.Therefore, matter entering a void occupies space without requiring two bodies to coincide, dissolving the alleged absurdity.
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    • 1.Atomists from Leucippus through Epicurus treated void as a necessary condition for motion, grounding its existence in the empirical fact that motion occurs.
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    • 2.If the non-existence of void entails the impossibility of motion, and motion is observationally undeniable, then the impossibility of void is refuted by modus tollens.
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    One example of the way that Crescas uses this new definition is to refute the proofs of Aristotle against the existence of infinity. In Aristotle’s opinion, two bodies cannot share the same space because of the property of dimension. The Greek philosopher concludes from this observation the impossibility of the existence of a void. The definition of a void is dimensional space without matter inside. Now if matter can fill a void, and matter itself has dimensions, then it follows that the dimensi
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