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    It is not the case that Abstract objects such as numbers and propositions exist but are not located at any time, including the present.

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    • 1.Only concrete, spatiotemporal entities have clear identity conditions; abstract objects lack determinate existence criteria.
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    • 2.Positing causally inert entities violates parsimony—we can explain mathematics via mental constructs or linguistic conventions.
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    • 3.Being atemporally located is metaphysically obscure; it's unclear what existence means outside the causal order entirely.
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    Reasons Against

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    • 1.Mathematical truths (e.g., 2+2=4) are eternal and unchanging, suggesting they exist independently of time.
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    • 2.Numbers are causally inert—they don't interact with physical objects—so temporal location is conceptually inapplicable.
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    • 3.Our best scientific theories presuppose abstract objects; denying their existence undermines mathematical practice.
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