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    It is not the case that Admitting any brute fact — including God's existence — dissolves the original argumentative force of demanding causes for all things.

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    • 1.Some brute facts may be necessary truths or self-explanatory (like logical laws), not arbitrary exceptions. These don't undermine causal reasoning generally.
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    • 2.The argument only requires contingent facts to have causes—not that absolutely everything must. God's necessity (if true) differs categorically from contingent existence.
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    • 3.Distinguishing between brute facts that demand explanation and those that don't is coherent if principled. The challenge lies in criteria, not the existence of brute facts itself.
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    • 1.The cosmological argument's force depends on treating 'why does anything exist?' as requiring explanation. Accepting brute facts undermines this universality.
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    • 2.If God can exist without explanation, the original demand for causes loses its rational justification—we've simply relocated the brute fact, not resolved it.
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    • 3.Logical consistency requires either all facts need causes or some don't. Positing God as exception-to-the-rule is an ad hoc move that abandons the argument's premise.
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