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    It is not the case that Alienation from God, the supreme good, would itself constitute maximal suffering for a conscious being whose nature is oriented toward that good.

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    • 1.Many report flourishing without belief in God, suggesting human suffering doesn't necessarily correlate with theological alienation.
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    • 2.Physical pain, loss of loved ones, and severe injustice cause measurable suffering independent of any relationship to transcendent goods.
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    • 3.Calling alienation from God 'maximal suffering' unfalsifiably redefines suffering to match theological conclusions rather than evidence.
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    Reasons Against

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    • 1.Humans exhibit deep yearning for transcendent meaning that purely material goods cannot satisfy, suggesting orientation toward something supreme.
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    • 2.Separation from one's ultimate source of fulfillment causes documented psychological distress comparable to profound loss or deprivation.
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    • 3.A being designed for union with its highest good would necessarily experience alienation from it as its worst possible state.
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