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    Allowing a terminating sign causes a regressive collapse of the entire semiotic chain.

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    • 1.If the final sign fails to be a sign, it also fails to function as the interpretant of the preceding sign.
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    • 2.If the preceding sign fails to have a proper interpretant, that preceding sign also fails to be a sign.
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    • 3.This failure propagates backward through the entire chain in a domino-like cascade.
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    • 1.Peirce's own pragmatic maxim grounds meaning in habitual behavioral dispositions, which can serve as terminal interpretants without requiring further sign-vehicles.
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    • 2.A habit or disposition is not itself a sign demanding interpretation but a practical norm of action, blocking regress without collapsing the chain behind it.
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    • 3.Peirce explicitly distinguished the 'final logical interpretant' as a habit-change rather than another sign, making termination conceptually coherent within his own framework.
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    • 1.Wittgenstein's rule-following considerations establish that meaning-fixing must bottom out in practices, not further representations, or regress is guaranteed by over-semiotization.
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    • 2.If every terminus invalidates preceding signs, then infinite chains fare no better since no finite segment ever achieves grounded meaning, making the objection self-defeating.
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    • 3.The domino collapse argument illicitly assumes that interpretant-hood requires a subsequent sign, which is a premise Peirce explicitly denies for dynamic and final interpretants.
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    To see this, imagine a chain of signs with either a first or a last sign. The final sign that terminates the semiotic process will have no interpretant; if it did, that interpretant would function as a further sign and generate a further interpretant, and the final sign would, in fact, not terminate the process. However, since any sign must determine an interpretant to count as a sign, the final sign would not be a sign unless it had an interpretant. Similarly, a first sign could not be the inte
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