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    It is not the case that An agent constitutionally bound to pursue only personal pleasure cannot be genuinely motivated to sacrifice it for strangers' greater pleasure.

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    • 1.Constitutional pursuit of pleasure can include pleasure derived from others' wellbeing, making self-sacrifice genuinely motivating to such an agent.
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    • 2.Distinguishing 'genuine' motivation from other forms is conceptually unclear; any action the agent performs reveals what motivated them.
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    • 3.Even agents with narrow values sometimes perform contrary actions through reasoning about long-term consequences or social reputation effects.
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    • 1.Constitutional constraints define what an agent can be motivated to do; they're not merely external obstacles overcome by willpower.
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    • 2.Genuine motivation requires internal alignment between one's desires and one's actions, not mere external compliance or self-deception.
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    • 3.An agent built to maximize only personal pleasure lacks the internal evaluative structure that makes others' welfare intrinsically motivating.
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