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    It is not the case that An atemporal believer can timelessly know the same truths that temporal believers know only at some times, so there is no bar to atemporal omniscience.

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    • 1.Knowing which time is NOW requires being causally embedded in time, not merely knowing that some time t has a haecceity T.
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    • 2.An atemporal being lacks the causal-indexical contact with the present moment that grounds genuine de se temporal knowledge.
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    • 3.Without that contact, the atemporal being knows only that t is the NOW-time, not what it is like for NOW to be t—a distinct cognitive achievement.
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    Reason for 2 of 2
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    • 1.Perry and Lewis establish that essentially indexical beliefs like 'it is now t' resist reduction to eternal propositional contents.
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    • 2.If 'it is now t' expresses an irreducibly self-locating belief, then its truth-conditions cannot be fully captured by any tenseless proposition an atemporal knower could entertain.
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    • 3.Therefore Wierenga's assumption that temporal and atemporal believers can share the same truth-apt content is false for the critical class of present-tensed beliefs.
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    • 1.Propositions expressed by present-tensed sentences predicate properties of whatever time has a time-haecceity T, but they and all other propositions are eternally true.
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    • 2.Knowers in time have access to the time with T, and perhaps T itself, only at that time, so what changes over time is not what is true but what temporal believers have access to.
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    • 3.It is plausibly being in time that imposes access limits, so there is no reason to think that an atemporal believer would suffer similar access limits.
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