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    An innate idea is not one that is always before the mind, but one that the mind has the faculty to summon

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    • 1.If innate ideas were those always before the mind, no idea would qualify as innate
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    • 2.We have within ourselves the faculty of summoning up certain ideas
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    • 1.Leibniz's own defense of innateness in the Nouveaux Essais requires that innate ideas carry necessary, a priori warrant—not merely summoning capacity.
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    • 2.An idea that requires experiential triggers to be summoned, as Descartes concedes with sensory occasions, exhibits contingent rather than innate origin.
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    • 3.Thus the faculty criterion, without an additional necessity condition, fails to demarcate genuinely innate ideas from sophisticated associative recall.
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    • 1.Locke argues that if 'faculty to summon' suffices for innateness, then all learnable truths become innate, collapsing the distinction entirely.
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    • 2.A faculty-based criterion cannot distinguish innate ideas from empirically acquired dispositions, since both involve latent cognitive capacities.
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    This is not the only place in Descartes’ work where innate and adventitious ideas are cast as sharing the trait of having their respective origins in things existing independently of his mind. For instance, in Comments on a Certain Broadsheet, published in 1648, Descartes casts innateness as a faculty (AT VIIIB 358; CSM I 304), which aligns with what he had said to Hobbes in the Third Set of Replies: “…when we say that an idea is innate in us, we do not mean that it is always there before us. Th
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