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    Ancient Greek art was excellent — Carmelics
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    Ancient Greek art was excellent

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    • 1.Nature in ancient Greece was particularly favorable to the development of beautiful bodies
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    • 2.The natural way of life in Greece was particularly favorable to the observation of beautiful bodies and thus to their imitation in art
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    • 3.Greek thought and character were particularly noble, making the external beauty of Greek bodies an expression of the beauty of the Greek mind
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    • 1.Herder argued that each culture produces art excellences relative to its own climate, history, and Volksgeist, with no transhistorical standard of artistic greatness.
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    • 2.If aesthetic value is culturally constituted rather than universal, then 'excellent' applied to Greek art smuggles in an illegitimate cross-cultural normative claim.
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    • 3.The supporting arguments themselves appeal to Greek-specific natural and cultural conditions, which undermines the universality required to rank Greek art as objectively excellent.
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    • 1.Winckelmann's judgments of Greek art were based almost entirely on Roman copies and plaster casts, not original Greek works.
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    • 2.Aesthetic evaluations derived from systematically misidentified objects cannot ground reliable claims about the excellence of the original tradition.
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    Winckelmann’s premises underlie his history of ancient art, the main claims of which are already evident in his 1755 essay “On the Imitation of the Painting and Sculpture of the Greeks.” This essay begins with the claim that “There is but one way for the moderns to become great, and perhaps unequalled; I mean, by imitating the ancients” (Reflections on the Painting and Sculpture of the Greeks, p. 2; in Essays on the Philosophy and History of Art, volume I). His topic is thus in the first instanc
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