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    It is not the case that Annihilation diminishes the pleasures of those in Heaven

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    Reasons For

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    • 1.the memory of the damned remain with those in Heaven
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    • 2.this memory is displeasurable to those in Heaven
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    • 3.If the above is true, Annihilation dimishes the pleasures of those in Heaven
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    Reasons Against

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    Reason against 1 of 2
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    • 1.Aquinas held that the blessed in Heaven have perfect knowledge of all that pertains to their beatitude, including the fates of those they loved on Earth.
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    • 2.The permanent annihilation of a person constitutes an irreversible metaphysical privation, which differs qualitatively from temporary suffering and cannot be consoled by hope of restoration.
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    • 3.Perfect knowledge of an irreversible privation of a beloved person produces a permanent diminishment in the joy of relational goods, even within beatific experience.
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    Reason against 2 of 2
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    • 1.Robert Adams and other relational theologians argue that personal identity is constituted through relationships, meaning the annihilation of one person partially destroys the relational fabric constituting others.
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    • 2.If heavenly joy is partly constituted by the perfection of relational bonds, as defended in perichoretic accounts of the beatific vision, then the permanent nonexistence of a relational partner structurally diminishes that joy.
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