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    Antony Duff's communicative framework presupposes a share... — Carmelics
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    Challenges→Communicative retributivism may be the best default position for retributivists.

    Antony Duff's communicative framework presupposes a shared moral community between offender and state that is empirically absent in unjust or racially stratified societies.

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    • 1.Racial disparities in policing, sentencing, and incarceration demonstrate that offenders and state don't share equal moral standing.
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    • 2.Communication requires mutual recognition of dignity; systemic injustice denies offenders this recognition, breaking communicative symmetry.
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    • 3.Duff's framework assumes good-faith dialogue, but marginalized communities justifiably distrust state institutions based on historical harm.
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    • 1.Shared moral community is normative ideal Duff advocates for, not empirical claim; absence doesn't refute its theoretical value as goal.
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    • 2.Imperfect institutional conditions don't eliminate shared basic commitments (prohibition on murder, theft) across diverse societies.
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    • 3.Duff's framework can accommodate critique of injustice; acknowledging systemic flaws strengthens rather than undermines communicative repair.
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