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    It is not the case that Any argument whose conclusion is a necessary condition for the validity of its own premises commits a vicious epistemic circle.

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    • 1.Some necessary truths (like logic itself) must feature in arguments for their own validity without being viciously circular.
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    • 2.A conclusion being necessary for premise-validity doesn't make it unjustified if the premises remain independently sound.
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    • 3.The distinction between virtuous and vicious circularity requires criteria beyond mere logical dependence alone.
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    • 1.Self-supporting arguments lack independent justification, making them epistemically parasitic on their own conclusions.
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    • 2.Epistemic standards require that premises be justified independently of what they're used to establish.
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    • 3.Allowing such circularity permits any proposition to be 'justified' by reasoning that presupposes it.
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