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    It is not the case that Any model that structurally excludes the constitutive substrate of a phenomenon fails to adequately model that phenomenon.

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    • 1.Software runs identically on different hardware; functional models succeed despite substrate abstraction, contradicting the claim.
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    • 2.Thermodynamics explains heat transfer without modeling individual atoms; higher-level descriptions adequately model many phenomena.
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    • 3.Some phenomena are substrate-independent by nature; requiring substrate inclusion demands impossible completeness for abstract systems.
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    • 1.Understanding consciousness requires studying neural correlates; models ignoring brain structure miss essential mechanistic explanation.
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    • 2.Maps omitting terrain features fail as navigation tools; similarly, models excluding constitutive substrates fail functionally.
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    • 3.Emergence depends on lower-level organization; ignoring substrate prevents understanding how higher properties arise from components.
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