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    It is not the case that Any purported reason for mind-body dependence that conflicts with this modal result must either deny S5 or show ideal conceivability fails, not merely invoke contested concepts.

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    • 1.S5 assumes metaphysical possibility equals conceivability-in-ideal-conditions, which itself requires defense, not assumption.
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    • 2.Even ideal conceivability may fail for fundamentally dependent properties; water's essence isn't revealed by conceiving H2O-like stuff.
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    • 3.Dismissing 'contested concepts' is premature; whether 'conceivability,' 'physicality,' or 'ideal conditions' are properly defined remains disputed.
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    • 1.S5 modal logic correctly captures metaphysical possibility; rejecting it requires substantial justification beyond stipulation.
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    • 2.Ideal conceivability tracks genuine possibility; absent demonstration of systematic error, conceiving minds without bodies shows real independence.
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    • 3.Vague appeals to 'contested concepts' avoid the burden of proof; specific conceptual confusions must be identified and diagnosed.
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