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    Appreciation of artistry is a fourth independent source o... — Carmelics
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    Appreciation of artistry is a fourth independent source of perfection and pleasure in aesthetic experience

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    • 1.Beautiful objects manifest artistry in their production
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    • 2.The appreciation of that artistry generates pleasure in the observer
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    • 3.This pleasure is distinct from pleasure derived from resemblance or other previously identified sources
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    • 1.Kant argues in the Critique of Judgment that awareness of artistic technique corrupts pure aesthetic judgment by introducing interested, conceptual cognition.
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    • 2.If appreciation of artistry requires knowing an object is made and how, it depends on extra-aesthetic knowledge rather than arising from perception alone.
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    • 3.Therefore artistry-pleasure is not an independent aesthetic source but a heteronomous pleasure derived from intellectual recognition of craft.
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    • 1.Baumgarten's own framework grounds perfection in unity-in-variety of sensory qualities, not in the productive acts of agents that caused those qualities.
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    • 2.The pleasure attributed to artistry appreciation is fully reducible to pleasure in the formal perfection of the resulting object, making artistry causally explanatory but not independently constitutive.
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    Finally, the “Main Principles” introduce a fourth source of perfection and therefore pleasure in the aesthetic experience, namely our appreciation of the artistry that is manifested in the production of a beautiful object. In explaining this source of pleasure, Mendelssohn also makes another revision to the traditional theory that it is resemblance alone that is the source of our pleasure in imitation, because resemblance is easily produced by means far less complex and admirable than all of the
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