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    Challenges→Immediate, particular pleasures are the end or goal of life, not pleasure in general or long-term pleasure.

    Aristotle demonstrates in Nicomachean Ethics X that pleasure considered in isolation from the activity it accompanies cannot serve as a self-sufficient end.

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    • 1.Aristotle defines eudaimonia as activity of soul in accordance with virtue, making activity—not pleasure—the fundamental end.
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    • 2.Isolated pleasure (e.g., from drugs) lacks the rational deliberation and virtue Aristotle identifies as essential to human flourishing.
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    • 3.Aristotle argues pleasure perfects activity as its natural completion, proving pleasure depends on activity rather than vice versa.
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    • 1.Aristotle acknowledges certain pleasures are intrinsically valuable and worth pursuing for their own sake, not merely as activity accompaniments.
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    • 2.The claim conflates Aristotle's hierarchy of goods with a claim about logical independence; pleasure could be both secondary and self-sufficient.
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    • 3.X.5 suggests contemplation's pleasure is inseparable from the activity itself, not that isolated pleasure is impossible or indefensible as an end.
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