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    It is not the case that Aristotle himself acknowledges in NE IX.8 that the virtuous person is most self-sufficient and least in need of others to sustain their commitment to virtue.

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    • 1.Aristotle explicitly states humans are political animals; virtue develops through social relationships and community participation that cannot be bypassed.
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    • 2.Practical wisdom requires deliberation about particular situations; the virtuous person benefits from others' perspectives and lived experience.
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    • 3.Friendship is a virtue and constitutes human flourishing; claiming self-sufficiency in virtue seems to contradict Aristotle's emphasis on relational goods.
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    • 1.Virtue is an internal state of character; external dependence cannot undermine what is fundamentally within one's control.
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    • 2.The virtuous person's practical wisdom enables self-directed choices, reducing reliance on others' guidance for ethical action.
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    • 3.Aristotle distinguishes self-sufficiency from isolation; the virtuous person needs others for flourishing but not for maintaining virtue itself.
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