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    Artistic beauty is not in all regards superior to natural... — Carmelics
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    Artistic beauty is not in all regards superior to natural beauty.

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    • 1.Kant argues in the Critique of Judgment that natural beauty uniquely occasions free play of imagination without imposed purposive concepts.
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    • 2.Art always carries the trace of intentional design, which constrains aesthetic contemplation to the artist's determinative purposes.
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    • 3.This constraint means artistic beauty cannot fully instantiate the pure disinterested aesthetic experience that natural beauty affords.
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    • 1.Hegel's claim that art surpasses nature assumes Spirit's self-expression is the highest value, but this privileging of mind over matter is contestable.
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    • 2.Natural beauty, as Adorno argues in Aesthetic Theory, retains an irreducible otherness that resists human conceptual domination.
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    • 3.This resistance to total appropriation gives natural beauty a moral and aesthetic dignity that humanly produced art structurally cannot possess.
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    • 1.Human artistry may concentrate beauty more than nature does in particular instances.
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    • 2.The beauty of nature as a whole exceeds the beauty of any single work of art.
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    However, although human artistry may concentrate beauty more than nature does, that hardly means that artistic beauty is in all regards superior to natural beauty. Mendelssohn concludes the paragraph just cited by saying that “the most perfect, ideal beauty…is to be encountered nowhere in nature other than in the whole and is perhaps never fully to be attained in the works of art.” The beauty of nature as a whole exceeds the beauty of any work of art, and accordingly our admiration for the skill
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