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    It is not the case that Augustine's argument presupposes a Platonic hierarchy of being that is itself a contested metaphysical posit, not a neutral premise.

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    • 1.Using philosophical frameworks to articulate doctrine does not make those frameworks 'presuppositions' rather than tools of exposition.
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    • 2.Augustine's core claims about God's transcendence and creation are defensible without commitment to Platonic ontology specifically.
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    • 3.Calling any foundational claim 'contested' does not show it was unwarranted as a premise at the time of Augustine's writing.
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    • 1.Augustine explicitly invokes Platonic Forms and the Good as highest reality in Confessions and Against the Academics.
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    • 2.The hierarchy of being (God > immaterial > material) is not logically entailed by Christian doctrine alone and reflects Platonic metaphysics.
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    • 3.Alternative metaphysical frameworks (Aristotelian, process theology) could ground Augustine's theological claims without this hierarchy.
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