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    Challenges→The intellect's passivity is categorically different from matter's passivity.

    Averroes argued that the material intellect is neither a form in matter nor matter itself, yet shares matter's indeterminacy — making passivity a structural feature independent of materiality.

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    • 1.Passivity (receptivity to forms) need not require material composition; immaterial substances can be passive recipients of actualization.
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    • 2.Indeterminacy characterizes potentiality itself, which is logically distinct from matter—making Averroes' separation metaphysically coherent.
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    • 3.The material intellect's inability to be a form-in-matter avoids infinite regress problems that plague competing Aristotelian accounts.
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    • 1.If the material intellect shares matter's indeterminacy but lacks matter, what grounds this shared property? The analogy seems stipulated, not explained.
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    • 2.Passivity without materiality struggles to explain how non-material intellect receives and retains determinate intelligible forms.
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    • 3.Averroes conflates logical indeterminacy (potential for any form) with metaphysical indeterminacy (lacking intrinsic nature), obscuring the distinction.
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    Key Terms

    Averroes(as Al-Ghazali's philosophical opponent)
    A 12th-century Islamic philosopher (also called Ibn Rushd) who believed Aristotle's logic could be combined with Islamic theology, and who disagreed with Al-Ghazali about how creation works.
    Form in matter(what the material intellect is NOT, according to Averroes)
    An Aristotelian idea that physical objects are combinations of two things: matter (the stuff they're made of) and form (the shape or pattern that makes them what they are).
    Materiality(what passivity is independent from, according to Averroes)
    The quality of being made of physical matter or being physical rather than purely mental or abstract.
    Passivity(contrasted with activity in discussing divine properties)
    The state of being acted upon or receiving action from something else, rather than causing action yourself.
    Structural feature(as what the statement claims configuration-space separation is)
    A fundamental, built-in aspect of how something works—as opposed to something that just happens to occur by chance.
    indeterminacy(Decision-making under uncertainty in political and legal contexts)
    Uncertainty or lack of definite knowledge afflicting one or more conditions of a decision procedure, making it impossible to fully specify choices and their outcomes
    material intellect(Avicenna's theory of cognition)
    The faculty through which forms inhere in the soul-intellect when received from the Active Intellect

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