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    Challenges→Bringing a person into existence can be justified even though it involves imposing harms on that person, because existence is a greater good that outweighs those harms.

    Benatar's asymmetry argument holds that the absence of pain is good even when there is no subject to enjoy that absence, while the absence of pleasure is only bad if someone is deprived of it.

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    Absence of pain(One half of Benatar's comparison)
    When there is no suffering or hurt happening; a state of not experiencing any negative sensations.
    Absence of pleasure(The other half of Benatar's comparison)
    When there is no enjoyment, happiness, or positive feeling happening; a state of not experiencing any good sensations.
    Asymmetry argument(as Benatar's key reasoning for antinatalism)
    An argument suggesting that the absence of pain is good even if no one experiences it, but the absence of pleasure is not bad if no one experiences it—meaning creating life to experience pleasure doesn't morally outweigh the pain it will cause.
    Benatar(as the philosopher credited with articulating antinatalist reasoning)
    David Benatar, a contemporary philosopher best known for developing and defending antinatalism, particularly through his asymmetry argument about pleasure and pain.

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    Deprived(Describes what happens to someone who misses out on pleasure)
    When someone is kept from having something they could have had or that would benefit them.
    subject(Logical/grammatical ontology in Eisagoge)
    Either a sound signifying a meaning or a meaning signified by a certain sound

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