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    Bernard Suits's formalist account shows sport is fully co... — Carmelics
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    Challenges→An adequate account of sport must appeal to collectively agreed-upon norms called conventions.

    Bernard Suits's formalist account shows sport is fully constituted by 'lusory goals' and 'constitutive rules' without invoking shared conventions.

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    • 1.Lusory goals (scoring touchdowns, sinking putts) are internally defined by rules, not external social agreement.
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    • 2.Constitutive rules logically precede and generate the game itself; conventions merely ratify what rules establish.
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    • 3.Two isolated players can play chess by rules alone without any shared cultural convention, proving conventions unnecessary.
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    • 1.Rules must be *interpreted* and *recognized as binding*—acts requiring shared understanding that constitute convention.
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    • 2.Why these specific rules constitute football rather than tag? Only convention answers; formalism cannot independently.
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    • 3.Rule-following is itself a social practice; Suits conflates rule-structure with the normative framework enabling compliance.
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