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    Bodies in motion will remain in motion and bodies at rest will remain at rest, without need of external explanation.

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    • 1.Rest and motion are opposite or contrary states.
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    • 2.According to the Scholastic principle, opposite states cannot transform into one another by their own nature.
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    • 3.Therefore, a body cannot move toward its opposite state (rest or motion) by virtue of its own nature.
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    • 1.For Aristotle, rest is not a state requiring explanation only when it is the natural place of a body, not as a universal default condition.
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    • 2.Violent motion and rest away from natural place require continuous causal sustenance, so persistence of non-natural states demands ongoing external explanation.
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    • 3.The Cartesian claim illicitly universalizes a principle that holds only for bodies already in their natural place, smuggling in a non-Aristotelian ontology of place.
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    • 1.Leibniz argues that mere extension cannot ground force, so a body's persisting motion requires an inherent active principle (vis viva), not mere inertial continuation.
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    • 2.If inertia is the only explanation for persistence, then dead matter sustains itself, which contradicts the occasionalist implication that God must continuously conserve all states.
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    • 3.Descartes himself relies on divine conservation to underwrite persistence, making the claim dependent on theological premises rather than a purely mechanistic principle.
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    Foremost among the achievements of Descartes’ physics are the three laws of nature (which, essentially, are laws of bodily motion). Newton’s own laws of motion would be modeled on this Cartesian breakthrough, as is readily apparent in Descartes’ first two laws of nature: the first states “that each thing, as far as is in its power, always remains in the same state; and that consequently, when it is once moved, it always continues to move” (Pr II 37), while the second holds that “all movement is,
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