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    It is not the case that Brian Leftow argues that God's eternity can be modeled as a timeless 'now' that intersects every temporal moment without being sequenced among them.

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    • 1.An atemporal 'now' that intersects all moments is conceptually incoherent—intersection requires spatial or temporal relation, which timelessness excludes.
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    • 2.If God doesn't experience temporal sequence, God cannot perceive genuine causation, change, or narrative—core features of how creation actually unfolds.
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    • 3.This model makes divine action mysterious: how does a timeless being causally influence temporal events without itself being in a before-after relation?
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    • 1.A timeless 'now' avoids the problem of God experiencing temporal succession, which would make God subject to time rather than transcendent.
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    • 2.This model preserves God's omniscience: a single eternal vantage point can access all temporal moments without foreknowledge implying determinism.
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    • 3.The model respects the intuition that God is genuinely present to all moments, not distant from creation in a way that undermines divine involvement.
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