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    It is not the case that Change can be relational rather than intrinsic: a being changes if its relations to temporal things alter, even without internal succession.

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    • 1.Relational change presupposes something genuinely changing relations—but if nothing intrinsically alters, the ground of relation-change remains obscure.
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    • 2.We intuitively distinguish real change (water freezing) from apparent change (turning to see an object). Relational change alone collapses this distinction.
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    • 3.If relational change requires no internal succession, a completely frozen, static universe would be indistinguishable from one with constant flux.
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    • 1.A statue's relation to observers changes as they move around it, revealing new appearances without the statue's intrinsic properties altering.
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    • 2.Time itself may be fundamentally relational rather than absolute, making relational change primary and intrinsic change derivative.
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    • 3.Eternalism (block universe) entails that past and future exist equally; an object's relation to 'now' shifts without internal succession.
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