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    Christ suffered with his perfect divine nature

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    • 1.The communicatio idiomatum doctrine holds that properties of Christ's two natures are genuinely predicated of the one divine person.
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    • 2.If suffering is truly predicated of the one person of Christ, then the divine person—not merely the human nature in isolation—suffered.
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    • 3.Cyril of Alexandria and the Council of Ephesus affirmed that God the Word truly suffered in the flesh, making divine suffering real, not merely nominal.
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    • 1.Jürgen Moltmann's theology of the cross argues that divine impassibility is a Greek philosophical import incompatible with the biblical God who enters into suffering.
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    • 2.If God's perfection includes infinite relational capacity and love, then the capacity to suffer in solidarity is a perfection, not a deficiency.
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    • 3.A God whose divine nature remains wholly untouched by the Incarnation's suffering is not genuinely incarnate but only apparently so, collapsing into docetism.
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    • Jesus suffered only with his human nature
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    • If the above is true, then it is not that Christ suffered with his perfect, divine nature
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