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    Classical theists like Aquinas hold that God's relation t... — Carmelics
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    Challenges→The God-creature relation must be internal to God.

    Classical theists like Aquinas hold that God's relation to creation is a 'logical relation' or Cambridge relation, not a real intrinsic modification of God.

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    • 1.God's immutability and atemporality require that creation cannot intrinsically change God's properties or introduce temporal dependence.
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    • 2.A relation's logical status depends on whether it grounds changes in intrinsic properties; creation only grounds changes in creatures, not God.
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    • 3.If God were intrinsically modified by creation, God would depend on creation for actualizing divine properties, compromising divine aseity.
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    • 1.If God genuinely knows, loves, and responds to creation, these relations seem to constitute real relational properties, not mere logical constructs.
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    • 2.The distinction between logical and real relations is metaphysically obscure; calling a relation 'logical' doesn't explain how God truly relates to creatures.
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    • 3.God's intimate involvement in creation (sustaining, providential action) appears incompatible with having only external, non-constitutive relations to creation.
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