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    It is not the case that Clear and distinct intellectual perception is the mark of truth.

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    • 1.Descartes himself admits that a deceiving God could cause us to clearly and distinctly perceive falsehoods before the existence of a veracious God is established.
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    • 2.The proof of God's veracity relies on clear and distinct perception, making the validation of that criterion circular (the 'Cartesian Circle').
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    • 3.A criterion that requires its own application to validate itself cannot serve as an independent mark of truth.
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    • 1.Historical consensus among trained mathematicians has repeatedly treated propositions as clearly and distinctly true that were later proven inconsistent, such as naive set-theoretic intuitions.
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    • 2.If clear and distinct perception can be shared, stable, and still track falsehood, then phenomenological certainty is insufficient as a truth criterion.
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    Reasons Against

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    • 1.The cogito result ('I think, therefore I am') is known to be true.
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    • 2.The cogito result is known only because it is clearly and distinctly perceived by the intellect.
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    • 3.If a proposition is known to be true solely because it is clearly and distinctly perceived, then clear and distinct perception is sufficient for truth.
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