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    Consciousness cannot literally enter the mind. — Carmelics
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    Consciousness cannot literally enter the mind.

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    • 1.A real thing cannot enter into a less real thing because they belong to two different orders of reality.
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    • 2.Consciousness is real, whereas the mind is less real than consciousness.
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    • 3.The reflection of a face is less real than the actual face, and the actual face does not literally enter the mirror.
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    • 1.The 'orders of reality' hierarchy presupposes a metaphysical framework (Advaita Vedanta) that physicalists and property dualists have principled reasons to reject.
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    • 2.If consciousness is a higher-order property of physical brain states (Rosenthal, Lycan), it is instantiated in the mind rather than reflected by it, making 'entry' a coherent causal-functional relation.
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    • 3.The mirror analogy fails because mirrors are spatially external to faces, whereas neural correlates of consciousness (Crick, Koch) suggest mind and consciousness are not similarly external to one another.
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    • 1.Hegel's absolute idealism holds that consciousness actualizes itself through finite structures, meaning mind is not a lesser container but a necessary moment of consciousness's self-realization.
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    • 2.If consciousness dialectically constitutes mental life from within (rather than remaining external), the claim that it 'cannot literally enter the mind' conflates a static ontological hierarchy with a dynamic processual account.
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    For Śaṅkara, the reflection of consciousness is an as though appearance because all-pervasive consciousness is not subject to movement or change. Consciousness is not like a substance that undergoes modification or entry within time and space. It remains untouched and unaffected, like the prototype image is untouched by its reflection or universal space is unaffected by the pot (BrSūBh 2.3.46). Furthermore, literal entry is also not possible because the reflection is less real than its prototype
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