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    Cross-ratio can be defined intrinsically in projective geometry using quadruples of collinear points

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    • 1.The projective group preserves straight lines
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    • 2.Any ordered triple of distinct collinear points can be mapped uniquely to any other ordered triple of distinct collinear points
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    • 3.No transformation in the projective group can map an arbitrary quadruple of collinear points onto an arbitrary such quadruple
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    • 1.The cross-ratio requires coordinatization by real numbers, and this numerical structure is not derivable from purely projective incidence axioms alone.
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    • 2.Pappus's theorem must be assumed as an independent axiom to guarantee commutativity of the coordinate field, revealing an algebraic presupposition external to projective geometry.
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    • 3.Therefore the cross-ratio is not intrinsic to projective geometry but depends on importing Euclidean or arithmetic structure through the back door.
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    • 1.Von Staudt's construction of the cross-ratio from the algebra of throws presupposes a continuous ordered field, which is a topological rather than purely projective datum.
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    • 2.Klein and Pasch recognized that completeness assumptions about the real line smuggle in metric concepts that projective geometry was meant to precede foundationally.
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    Klein’s insight, following von Staudt, was that an exactly similar argument involving quadruples of collinear points can be used to define cross-ratio in projective geometry. The projective group preserves straight lines, and any ordered triple of collinear points can be mapped to any ordered triple of collinear points, and the map that sends a given ordered triple of distinct points to another ordered triple of distinct points is unique, but there is no transformation in the group that can map
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